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#1 2009-09-25 19:36:46

cockydagger
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Looking for between 1024-1506 land

I have spent the past two days looking for a new location for the exchange and can't find anything.  If anybody knows of a location that is city themed that would fit the exchange, please post the location in this thread.  Thanks.


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#2 2009-09-26 13:17:36

wendenxeno
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Re: Looking for between 1024-1506 land

I think you should rent a plot on Venture Square- opposite the ACE.  The ISE and ACE would then compliment each others pool of investors.  Maybe if you spoke to Intlibber he would countenance the ISE sharing the ACE trading floor- it makes sense to me given that the ACE is good at marketing and the ISE is not.  I think it would probably benefit the ISE more than the ACE to do this, although im sure that the WSE die hards that monopolize the ISE would be against this.

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#3 2009-09-26 13:19:21

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Re: Looking for between 1024-1506 land

Alternatively why not take up the generous offers by many ISE CEOs to take some of the free plots offered to you months ago- they would probably build you an awesome exchange building too for free.

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#4 2009-09-26 13:53:48

AndyGrant
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Re: Looking for between 1024-1506 land

Maybe go with ZEN ?

http://slcapex.com/home/story/ZEN/2475

Zen has a city theme and is not a competitor.

Renting from both: vstex, capex, ace, sljapan would be just as surreal as if microsoft rented stuff from apple, you don't wanna do it.


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#5 2009-09-26 15:09:39

AlainDelpiaz
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Re: Looking for between 1024-1506 land

I personally am against any links with ACE.


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#6 2009-09-26 18:24:34

KonnerMcDonnell
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Re: Looking for between 1024-1506 land

wendenxeno wrote:

I think you should rent a plot on Venture Square- opposite the ACE.  The ISE and ACE would then compliment each others pool of investors.  Maybe if you spoke to Intlibber he would countenance the ISE sharing the ACE trading floor- it makes sense to me given that the ACE is good at marketing and the ISE is not.  I think it would probably benefit the ISE more than the ACE to do this, although im sure that the WSE die hards that monopolize the ISE would be against this.

Just threw up a little in my mouth.

If any companies are tapped, it'd certainly need to be kept in house, DDE for instance.

Out of curiosity, why is the ISE moving again?

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#7 2009-09-26 23:40:28

roddersholgado
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Re: Looking for between 1024-1506 land

I am an ISE diehard and I detest the WSE and I am totally against any links with ACE. I think the ISE does an outstanding job

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#8 2009-09-26 23:55:21

elialemorigi
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Re: Looking for between 1024-1506 land

Sorry Wenden, nothing against you but I'm against too about ISE at ACE.

DDE,  could be a good choice. However I do not remember a city themed area.... Del, corect me if I'm wrong smile

ZEN has nice places to be...

However, a nice city themed area where no one has ever heard about an exchange could be quite interesting....

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#9 2009-09-27 03:39:47

DeliciousDemar
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Re: Looking for between 1024-1506 land

I'm happy to provide land for a headquarters for ISE, but you're right, I don't have "themed" sims.

Why not think out of the box - the theme of the sim is unimportant - you could have a gorgeous urban themed sim that has no traffic.  Why not contemplate having a modest headquarters, and then renting a couple of spots in very busy commercial areas, to hold information, a landmark to the main office, and an ATM...  Something like a kiosk. or a booth, or small boutique store, like in many SL "malls".

The point is to generate interest from people that have never heard of the ISE, right?  Not just to give US all a place to go...

Just a thought...

dd

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#10 2009-09-27 03:55:47

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Re: Looking for between 1024-1506 land

I second Del

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#11 2009-09-27 04:22:32

KonnerMcDonnell
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Re: Looking for between 1024-1506 land

DeliciousDemar wrote:

I'm happy to provide land for a headquarters for ISE, but you're right, I don't have "themed" sims.

Why not think out of the box - the theme of the sim is unimportant - you could have a gorgeous urban themed sim that has no traffic.  Why not contemplate having a modest headquarters, and then renting a couple of spots in very busy commercial areas, to hold information, a landmark to the main office, and an ATM...  Something like a kiosk. or a booth, or small boutique store, like in many SL "malls".

The point is to generate interest from people that have never heard of the ISE, right?  Not just to give US all a place to go...

Just a thought...

dd

To garner some interest, perhaps the ISE could offer shares in exchange for a parcel of land. Run it by the shareholders of course. There's no guarantee the recipient wouldn't just dump the shares outright, but you never know.

I think ISE users would be happy with a small nook with just an ATM. In another post, Eliale talked about revitalizing the community. Maybe it's just me, but attracting new faces would help revitalize the community while also inspiring some evolution. The ongoing dialogue, though arguably stagnant, suffers from some ennui. Talking with newcomers about the platform would help remind us what brought us here as newcomers, and I think it'd put many things into perspective. In that way, it's like seeing the world from a child's eyes. Like always I'm not just talking about the ISE here, and I think newcomers could positively impact the platform more generally.

I tend to think that gamers would be fascinated by the exchanges, that is, if they knew the difference between virtual exchanges and banks (space reserved for cynics). "Did you know that the 20L$ you're putting into that zyngo machine would get you 10 DDE shares?" There used to be gaming companies listed on the exchanges. They attracted people from both markets: "Not only can you buy and play the games, but you can receive a piece of the profits as well."

I could go on forever. People on the ISE have been talking about outreach for some time.This might be an apt time to pursue that. An interesting place to start might be for people to disclose how they learned about the exchanges. For instance, I learned about the banks from gamers and the banks led me to the exchanges. Once you picked a few prime locations, perhaps a few ISE regulars could meet periodically in world. Not only would that strengthen the sense of community, it might just attract some newcomers.

Good post Delly,

KM

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#12 2009-09-27 05:14:45

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Re: Looking for between 1024-1506 land

Thanks everyone and Del.  I do want to open many branches and start getting ATM's in as many locations as possible.  The current branch will still exist, I just want something a little bit bigger and nicer with other attractions around it as the main place.


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#13 2009-09-27 06:39:43

AlainDelpiaz
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Re: Looking for between 1024-1506 land

Happy to provide my lot for the ISE HQ on mainland for shares. (i'd still continue paying tier, but would receive ISE shares in accordance to the paid amount monthly). Check my picks for location.

Plus i have a few venues in other places, where i would be happy to put an ATM or otherwise promote the ISE.

And as a third topic - i am willing to work with a group of people to further the ISE. May it be then promotion, generation of future ideas or policies or something else. If there is interest a such small group could be formed. And if people think that i might be of any assistance of course big_smile


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#14 2009-09-27 11:27:43

HiddenairportMathy
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Re: Looking for between 1024-1506 land

there's some cheap space next to my business center in schear, if you are interested, you can go check it out...i got it for extremely low rent....i know the owner of the land is willing to sell them at low price too

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#15 2009-09-30 15:07:04

ScottNestler
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Re: Looking for between 1024-1506 land

Cocky,

I can give you a large space on the same sim as CapEx

The sim has a large amphitheater for meetings and the sim name is generic

Since I also own a large block of ISE I do not see a conflict.

The space would be at no cost to ISE

Thank you,

Scott

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#16 2009-09-30 18:23:08

cockydagger
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Re: Looking for between 1024-1506 land

I appreciate the generosity and help of everyone and will be checking everything out over the weekend.  Once again let me say that the current branch isn't going away unless Linden Lab cans the sim since it seems like the branch is the only thing left around.

But we are definitely going to get something better and everyone is being very helpful.


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#17 2009-09-30 22:51:47

elialemorigi
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Re: Looking for between 1024-1506 land

ScottNestler wrote:

Cocky,

I can give you a large space on the same sim as CapEx

The sim has a large amphitheater for meetings and the sim name is generic

Since I also own a large block of ISE I do not see a conflict.

The space would be at no cost to ISE

Thank you,

Scott

I would not dislike to have a place where you can have the 3 exchanges of SL  ( ISE, Capex and Vstex).

It would concentrate a decent amount of investors together.

Of course, each exchange should have a separate HQ

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#18 2009-10-01 00:40:27

AlainDelpiaz
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Re: Looking for between 1024-1506 land

Not a bad concept Eliale.


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#19 2009-10-01 17:27:36

ScottNestler
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Re: Looking for between 1024-1506 land

I would be happy to have a seperate building for each exchange

-Scott

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#20 2009-10-01 18:06:13

AndyGrant
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Re: Looking for between 1024-1506 land

One thing i don't understand is, what do exchanges use (or plan to use) their HQ's for ? (isn't that quiet huge waste of resources?)

In my opinion, given the size of the sl financial community, there's hardly need for even 1 building. (for all of the exchanges combined)

Let's say you need a conference room for a shareholder meeting, how propable is it that more than 1 room will be occupied at same time ?

Next thing isee an exchange can need is a trading floor, but that floor doesn;t have to be sepeare for each exchange, better have one giant trading floor and in that room some clear seperation of the different exchanges, but keep it tight.

Or is there something i'm missing here ?

Edited to add: i guess what i'm trying to say is, if there is this unique opportunity to unite the exchange community here, why spoil it with walls and seperate exchange hq's ?

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#21 2009-10-01 20:57:02

AlainDelpiaz
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Re: Looking for between 1024-1506 land

I totally agree Andy. Maybe, we, the ISE could ponder a move to the already existing CAPEX building and they could ponder if they would want us there. Combined efforts, nice building, shared costs, more marketing power etc. I would vote yes.


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#22 2009-10-02 03:16:08

yaniklytton
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Re: Looking for between 1024-1506 land

Its a thought I had for a while, but from reading all the attacks and counterattacks from different exchange's members, I was really doubting it could ever be a reality. How about a neutral ground? Would there be any companies that are useful to all exchanges (Insurance, translation, etc) that would like to move around that hypothetical trading floor?

I ask because I had this thought in my mind for a long time now, and I could probably provide a sim, and build it as a city like financial district (SL way) if there is enough people/companies interested.

I have to agree with Andy here. I have yet to see an HQ with someone in it. They could still exist around that trading floor, as decoration or whatever use one might think of, but a common trading floor would really be a better way to go.

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#23 2009-10-02 05:19:36

elialemorigi
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Re: Looking for between 1024-1506 land

AndyGrant wrote:

One thing i don't understand is, what do exchanges use (or plan to use) their HQ's for ? (isn't that quiet huge waste of resources?)

It is not.  I mean, HQ does not have to be pretentious but should be a “safe area”.

What do I mean with that? You never know what could happen when you are a “guest” or even a paying guest….

An exchange should maintain an independent ATM place (HQ) where no one can dictate rules (better mainland).

For example, when I was banned from Rodders lands where ISE was located, it was very useful to have an independent place to go ruled by ISE only.

Still, having a place where we can find the 3 exchanges may attract other companies to have their office there and more people around…

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#24 2009-10-06 05:38:50

AlainDelpiaz
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Re: Looking for between 1024-1506 land

So how about it Cocky? Do you think a move to the same location as CAPEX would be considerable?


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#25 2009-10-06 06:10:00

cockydagger
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Re: Looking for between 1024-1506 land

I am still thinking about it and looking at land.


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